At 3:55 AM,
Those reasons for watching the movie in general and I agree with u in them all..
""-we have to see the other side of the coin and see what is others are thinking of
-it is not 7aram to watch what is against our religion , at least to see what is there wrong""
BUT what is the extra benefit u'll get if it was in Cinemas...
""declaring the right and wrong by a documentary movie in the beginning of the movie to show us what is wrong and what is righ""
this could happen if u talk about general Morals or ethics for example .. but here it's a matter of beliefs..
how u declar that what is in the movie is wrong while
it's right for Christians
Here comes the confusion between right and wrong... because , in this movie specialy, both point are opposite totally..
Watch the movie in ur home, if u r a father guide ur son/daughter while watching...
while u r a son, ask ur parents for things u miss understand, as they are an important source of knowledge for u.. (this how u can fix the problem of watching the movie without a giude in ur home)
The documentary movie will express only one of the different points of views, OK, whose one will be taken .. or u will talk abt all the points(the documentary movie is then another long movie :-))
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""there it is ok to show Christ and very common to use comics in that purpose ,but they didn’t understand that it is 7aram in Islam to show prophets for several reasons ""
I didn't know it's realy common to use comics with Christ(salla allah 3alaih wasallm) as it was for Mohammed (salla allah 3alaih wasallm) the way it was.. ??
The idea is not in drawing.. it's in humiliating him through drawing.. which if was done through writing or any othe mean would also be so rude..
I don't want to open this issue, It's over and it's not its place..
I mentioned it, in the 1st place, to show that there must be restriction in the relegion-related issues...
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Every one Go to the Cinema for FUN..
But who buys The Novel wants to read ,think and analyze ...
so such a movie , even if it's meaningless compared to the Novel, will be treated (besat7eyya) from most of ppl who watched it in movies and may cause a chaos not needed...
As u said ""I only approve making it forbidden in case the Christians here refused to show it in theaters ""
I mostly think they refused...
and for those who think deeply it's allowed and easy, U said it
""-if i didn't see it in cinema , I will see it by any other mean and not only me , many others as well, specially in the last two years, such a thing became very easy in Egypt."" to find a copy of the Movie before the novel.. so.. u got it.. I'll get it and discuss it in a civilized way ..
where is the problem now..??
The problem comes..If i was put in jail for talking abt it or having it..
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""and what happened in mo7aram bik was different than this case in our hands , we are not talking about a movie made by Muslims to attack Christians ,but we are talking about movie made by Christians and attacking Christians ""
You are right .. I m sorry for this example.. and that's due to i didn't read the Novel..
forgive me..:-(
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Finally
""about the general idea of control in cinema ""
there are many cosiderations that must be cosidered .. beside seeking free and open minding..
If a desicion may cause a harm and a benefit .. compare which of them can be handled .. losing the benefit ..or having the harm.. It differs from one situation to another..
BUT always remeber that confusion in 3akida is a harm that with many ppl can't be properly handled, specially in our present communities..
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Regards
GNM
first of all this is what I remember of the reply I wrote because after I wrote it , all what I wrote was gone : ( while posting
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BUT what is the extra benefit u'll get if it was in Cinemas...
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-not all educated and cultured ppl can get the movie , not all of them has a kids like me :) , we are talking about egypt here not america , where it is not a must to learn how to use a computer ,while being ignorant in computer doesnt mean that u have empty head , so cinema is the normal way to view the movie .
-the movie as an action movie is not the class that ppl here would prefere , so after two or three days ,only ppl who care will enter it and others will find it boring. the movie itself is not the kind of movies that attracts empty headed ,and shallow thinking ppl
- cinema is an important source for culture in our modern life , and cant be ignored , for example I didn’t have the honor to read " the lord of the rings " but I memorize the three parts movie by heart as if I read the story .
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Here comes the confusion between right and wrong... because , in this movie specially, both point are opposite totally..
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well u have a point in this , i was only thinking as a( Muslim ) sorry for that.
but the main points of confusion are not many as u think but it is deep and dangerous , it is only concentrated about main points so explaining those points wont take time , in the documentary movie it can be shown in the two points of view Christian and Muslim , and I didn’t mention the family rule , I forgot it although it is important , but also even families now cant be the source for educating the " din " .
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BUT always remember that confusion in 3akida is a harm that with many ppl can't be properly handled, specially in our present communities..
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This point exactly take us to a very serious problem , which is how deep our children are educated the basic religious rules? It is clear the child spend in school time more than house , and if we looked at the content of religious basics are being teached there we will find a collection of shallow definitions ,far away from being a good source to raise a child , the result is a generation that know nothing about his din , and as a result such a movie can hesitate ppl !!!!
The friend that u talked to me about , that got confused because of the" passion of the Christ" , is a clear example for that , she didn’t got confused because of a mysterious point , no .. she got confused on one of the basic difference between Islam and Christian religious , this problem will not be fixed by not showing the movie , the mistake is on us not the movie , if we didn’t show the movie because of this reason we will be ignoring the main problem and hiding the results of it only , but it will show up in another situation .
Best regards,
Free eagle